No blogging
I'm not saying I won't be blogging again but I'm in no hurry. I've been doing some travelling and a lot of reading. My mind is on other things. Writing about the benefits and reasons for atheism could become an obsession, just as much as researching the madness of religion has already. It's an obsession that I just don't have time for if I am also to have any sort of a life right now.
I'm in the process of looking for a short term rental nearer to where I am already in the process of looking for a property to buy. It'll make house hunting easier and it will more rapidly fulfill my desire to get out of the sleepy little black hole I am in now. This must take precedence over blogging, as must my other activities such as work. I've also set myself the task of learning 20 languages to add to my existing 2.1. As much as I enjoy the blogsphere I think that these other activities are more productive for me personally and thus more deserving of my time.
In addition to all of this is the simple fact that everything I am saying has been said before or is being said by many others simultaneously. It's pretty much a watered down, detail free, and therefore largeley vacuous subset of what I actual think. I've become increasingly aware that I would prefer to write in a more precise and detailed direction. I will still blog, but the posts will be far less frequent, at least for now. And when I do post then it's going to be a lot more "full on" and will be a more integrated view of a far more integrated point of view. If a thing is worth doing ...
Ciao for now and thanks for stopping by. :)
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23 comments:
One less hate blog masquerading as an atheist humanist blog sounds good to me.
BDE
Well since suiciding bombing Jewish children also sounds good to you I won't worry to much about your opinion. Anyway, as I said, I will still blog but when I have time and in much more depth. You'll hate that even more because you'll be left with out any little stones to hide under in your bizarre support for a murderous and absolutely baseless ideology.
One question for you though, if this is a hate blog then what do you think of hate preachers?
Once more, CD you seem unable to comprehend that its not suicide bombing of Jewish children (why is it you insist on the Jewishness) thats legit. Its any and all armed struggle within the OT against the Occupation that is legit.
But hey, what else but lies and fabrications should one expect from a hate filled bigot such as yourself.
"Its any and all armed struggle within the OT against the Occupation that is legit"
In your opinion, Israel of course is OT and Pizza parlours full of kids are legitimate targets. We've had this discussion before and that's precisely why I go on about Jewish children - because you previously described bombing them as being legitimate resistance. The only reason why you don't insist on Jewishness is because you want to see some more American, British (western) deaths.
I know I've tried to explain this to you before but I shall try again. I don't hate Muslims. Islam disgusts me. It's foundations with Muhammad are brutal, full of deceit and violence and violation, and as an ideology it is absolutely unfit to continue by any intelligent and ethical standard, but I don't hate Muslims.
I do think that anybody that supports that something as vile and absolutely baseless as the "religion" of Islam should take precedence over the life of another is certainly worthy of contempt, if only for the fact that they are utterly irresponsible with their thinking and thus an offence and danger to every other living human being. I wouldn’t even call that hate. It’s closer to a very deep disapointment. Certainly if something dissappints then it should be improved and this planet and the lives of everybody on it would be far better without this particular blood lusting cult and the rest of the vicious and idiotic evils it perpetrates that you call legitimate.
CD,
No, Israel within the pre '67 borders is not OT.
Its not the religion of Islam I support, I am an atheist as. Its the right of oppressed people, regardless of creed, to resist oppression and occupation that I support.
Of course, small minded bigots like you need to characterize this as a struggle between "evil" Islam and "good" western values when really it is a simple struggle between colonizers and indig people. Right being on the side of the indig Arabs.
Why can't your tiny mind grasp that?
You don't hate Muslims but you do hate Islam? Thats like saying you don't hate money but you do hate capitalism; the two are intertwined.
Nice try bigot boy.
BDE
Oppressed people? For a start the OT was taken in bond against good behaviour subsequent to the war in which Israel was the attacked and not the aggressor. The good behaviour never actually happened. Israel has subsequently suffered a literally unbelievable onslaught of attacks (more than 20,000 in the last three years not included the recent Lebanon conflict), a fraction of which are reported by the Western media and even when they are reported they invariably misreport the facts to paint Israel as the bad guys and the Palestinians as the victims. They fail to report key facts such as that attacks by Israeli forces were specific strikes against sites being used to launch missile and rocket attacks against Israeli targets at that time. But no, I’m not saying Israel is perfect – but I certainly am not saying that the Palestinians are oppressed by Israel when the majority of the death toll and suffering they can lay claim to was caused by Arab neighbours, themselves with infighting and their persistence in the pursuit of victory by violence rather than peace by negotiation. When they accept Israeli sovereignty and commit to talking they will end their self-oppression, but instead they vote Hamas into power in a landslide victory whilst the founding Hamas covenant which is still its mantra states that only violent jihad is acceptable and that negotiation is unacceptable (oh, and that all Jews must be killed).
Yes, I am happy to categorize this as a struggle between evil Islam and good western values. For an atheist you spend a great deal of time trying to defend the most violent and oppressive religion on the planet. Islam is sexist, homophobic, anti-democratic and highly religiously intolerant and it is Islam that has oppressed billions throughout its history through the use of extreme violence and highly discriminatory law and social practices. So I find it extremely hard to believe that it is oppressed people you care about having not heard a single word from you regarding the massacre and expulsion of 900,000 Jews from Arab lands since 1957 , or the massacre of thousand of Palestinian refugees by Arabs, or the current 800 million women brought up as second class citizens, or the one million non-Muslims who are denied under law the right to practice their religions and denied citizenship in Saudi Arabia, etc, etc, etc, I find it quite difficult to take your “I care about oppression” slogan seriously. The list is practically endless.
If we were now witnessing the rise of Nazi Germany would you be calling me a racist or a bigot to speak out in opposition to the Nazis? Would I be somehow contradicting myself to say I hate the National Socialist ideology but I don’t hate Germans? I don’t think so. So I say it again. I oppose the ideology of Islam. It is brutal and idiotic and its entire history is one of Dark Age barbarianism applied to the politics and liberty of the time without any modernisation or modification. I do not oppose individual Muslims. I think they are seriously, very tragically, wrong – but I don’t actually oppose them as individuals. I hope that they will escape the brutality they have bought into (or more accurately been raised within) and grow up and grow out of it. I have very little hope of that actually happening though as even an atheist (incidentally as an atheist you are not allowed dhimmi status and would be put to death under Islamic rule) people like you are incapable of forming an objective opinion.
Now, before you keep calling me a bigot I still invite you to look up the word. I am tolerant of your opinion and respect your right to share it. That doesn’t mean I have to agree with it. I don’t. Your opinion is inconsistent, excusing or ignoring actions by one group whilst demonizing another group for the same actions. Your opinion is based on selective data (you persistently ignore what the Jihadis have to say, the Hamas covenant, the Qur’an, the ahadith – all of which specifically states that your opinion that Muslim are the victims and not he aggressors is absolute nonsense). Your opinion is variable dependent upon to what degree you are being shamed in a debate (one day killing Jewish children is legitimate resistance and the next day you claim that it is not and that you have never said it). Your core conclusion is immutable, independently of the facts (Israel always evil, Muslims always victims – regardless of the facts that above all show that the only clear thing is that these victim/aggressor boundaries are not so clear).
BTW, I like both money and capitalism. I like money because it is useful to me and I like capitalism because it is the glue ideology by which parts of society are able to adhere together in productive cooperation. For Muslims and Islam this would be more that I have known and continue to know many Muslims, have found the vast majority to be normal people so I have no problem with individual Muslims. Islam however is the glue that sticks the minds of people in denial of the reality of their existence, adherence to ridiculous ritualistic practices that are contrary to individual freedom and dedication to an unproven and utterly unsupported and out right nasty idea being more important than the lives and freedoms of individuals.
What an evil thing it is that I do by opposing that people kill and oppress each other over myth!
Your pro-Israel bias is outrageous. You are a Zionist masquerading as an atheist plain and simple.
Israel has killed 4x more Palestinians than Pals have killed Israelis during the 2nd Intifada and yet you claim " fraction of which are reported by the Western media and even when they are reported they invariably misreport the facts to paint Israel as the bad guys" - which is absolute BS.
Your inundation of Zionist propaganda is remarkable for someone who claims to be an atheist. Not to mention all the bigotted images on your website. Where is the counter showing Palestinian children killed by Israeli soldiers int he last five years?
We are told every time an Israeli is killed or injured by a Palestinian but not vice versa so I say GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU WORTHLESS LYING RACIST PIECE OF SHIT.
BDE
I'm not masquerading as an atheist, although I suspect that you are. My "bias", as you choose to call it, is irrelevant since my opinion, unlike your own, is alterable by the persuasive force of the facts. If new information is presented and it is credible, i.e. backed by evidence, that does not fit with my current opinion then it will be my opinion that must change.
Where is the counter showing Palestinian children killed by Israel? Good question. I have no idea if such a counter exists. However, even if it did it would still not support your preposterous victim theory since if the two counters were placed side by side we would repeatedly see the Muslim attacks against Israel counter go up a few notches each and every time prior to the dead Palestinian children counter going up. There would be an obvious correlation between cause and effect and it would be remarkably obvious which side we might ascribe the guilt to.
You’ve called me racist more times than I can remember. Do you call the Palestinians racist? They do hate the Jews and wish them all to be killed, which is actually stated in the founding covenant of the child murdering terrorists they elected as their government. But the Jews are killing children so it’s ok to be racist against them right? Wrong. There’s a link over there on the right in the blog roll to This Ongoing War which is a site run by a Jewish couple who lost their 15 year old daughter Malki when one of the peace loving Palestinians you admire decided to massacre the customers of a restaurant. What was the child’s crime BDE? What made her a legitimate target? Let me guess.
Hmmmmmmm. I know. It’s because she was Jewish right?
Yeah, right!
Perhaps if the Palestinian people stopped trying to kill the Jews and sat down at the table and talked growth, economics, social freedoms and a future for their children instead of an age old obsession to the genocidal madness of a 7th century child molester (who incidentally stated that you as an atheist should be killed) then their children would be quite safe. Perhaps if instead of raising them in hatred with the ultimate goal of martyrdom they raised them with goals such as a good career, a happy family, travel, education and broadening their minds then their children might stand far less chance of dying as the innocent victims of violence. What do you think?
But that makes me racist I know. I’m a racist because I oppose an ideology which is itself racist to the core against the Jews, discriminatory against all other religions and against all women, murderous towards the previously mentioned Jews and also absolutely everybody that is not a Muslim, all homosexuals, adulterers, and even most of their own because they are not true believers after all, blah blah blah.
The blood of the dead Palestinian children is on the hands Muhammad. There is a great deal of blood on the hands of Muhammad and history backs me up on that. Unfortunately the present continues to support that assertion also.
After the war that is coming, if you survive, you will have the chance to look back at the past as those that tried to appease, apologise or ignore the Nazis did. You can look back with the shame of knowing that you contributed to the impotence of society when such horror could have been avoided. Head up high, BDE, and walk proud. The days of your fantasies are numbered and the days of your fear and shame await. Feel free to answer this comment in ten years time after you have witnessed the beginning of the carnage you now shout to support.
I don't call entire groups racist as racism is an attribute for individuals, not groups. To believe otherwise is, in itself, racist.
Your head is so up your ass when it comes to stats and facts on the I/P conflict that it is obvious you are just another Zionist shill.
You are not worth the time to treat as a civilized human being so I will continue to treat you as the worthless, racist, lowlife scumbag you are.
BDE
So I suppose the Ku Klux Klan is a non-racist organisation? And the Nazis too were just a social club where everyone was welcome?
"Come on in for some tea Mr. Cohen. Would you like another Ferrero Roche Mr Mandela?"
If you don’t call entire groups racist then you neglect to acknowledge accurate definitions of them. But of course you will just leap in with a few exceptions to try to save some shred of your non-existent argument. Or at least, you would if I didn’t mention it first. But save yourself the bother. I know that you are going to agree that the Ku Klux clan is a group that is racist. I also know that you will agree that the Nazis were and in fact continue to be, albeit in smaller numbers. So that’s your first retort rejected and focus again is drawn to the fact that you refuse to add Islam to the list despite it saying again and again throughout the Qur’an that Jews are invariably inveterate liars, apes and pigs. You’ll deny the racism of Islam, which has been constantly expressed in actions of oppression and violence since Muhammad first began to speak against the Jews and later put his sword to their necks. You whitewash over the stated aims of the people and the governments of those people that you call victims, whilst they make it clear in what they have written, what they say and the give away behaviour of strapping bombs to their children and teaching them to be glorious martyr-come-murderers for Allah. This is either through ignorance or through something far more troubling.
Perhaps your motivation is that you share that racist streak?
Don’t treat me as a civilized human being. I haven’t seen much sign of it so far and I can’t say I really care. But try to treat yourself as one. You might start by an earnest investigation of how far you fall short. What are your faults BDE and how hard to do you work to conceal from yourself what you already know?
You are racist against the Jewish people and it skews your ability to appreciate the facts dispassionately and with a critical mind.
If you want to discuss then I’m all ears. If you want to rant then you are also free, so do as you please.
CD
"You are racist against the Jewish people and it skews your ability to appreciate the facts dispassionately and with a critical mind."
Cite exactly where I display such an attribute.
Why is it racist twerps like you always try and project your own faults onto those who call you on them?
Regarding your pathetic rhetoric about group racism, here's where your tiny mind fails to make the distinction: groups like the klu klux clan and the nazis are racist organizations whose premise and membership requirements are built on racism. A people like the Palestinians are not. Can your little pea of a brain grasp this?
Its so easy to tear your pathetic arguments to shreds it is almost no fun. I wish you had a half decent intellect that I could debate with instead of your third rate one.
BDE
No pithy comeback?
Have you finally accepted that you are nothing but a hate filled windbag?
Accepting your faults is the first step to overcoming them.
BDE
Better things to do is all.
But as to your questions:
Where do you display such racism? Everytime you complain about the killing of Palestinian children on the one hand and give a big thumbs up to the murder of Israeli children on the other. So take your pick from pretty much any conversation we've ever shared. There's your proof.
About my little pea mind not getting getting that racism is not part of being Palestinian but is part of the Ku Klux Klan (despite you alreayd having said that you would never call a group racist) I can only ask have you ever actually read the Qur'an or any of the ahadith? Apes and pigs ring any bells? How about trees and stones saying "there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him"? Islam is inately racist against the Jews as it has been since its inception. Denying that is like denying water is less dense than lead. Good luck trying to stay afloat with a lead life jacket.
Of course, since we are talking about the Palestinians who elected Hamas in a landslide victory we could just read the Hamas covenant, as I keep recommending that you do. In that you will find bothofthe above, a commitment to violence and the anhiliation of the Jews and a refusal of peaceful means absoluely all based on the Qur'an, incuding references to and quotes from specific verses regarding Jihad and the obligatory destruction of the Jews.
CD,
You should read the Torah if you want an example of a racist theological treatise.
Go see what it says about Jewish relations with non Jews.
So you assume that because Islam is racist and because almost all Palestinians are Muslims ergo Palestinians are racist. Nice logic. I guess by your logic, all Jews are racist; see my point about their holy books.
BTW I never "give a big thumbs up" about the death of Israeli children; I am just enough of a realist to understand that their deaths are the end result of Israel's refusal to negotiate in good faith with the Palestinians for almost 40 years.
"About my little pea mind not getting getting that racism is not part of being Palestinian but is part of the Ku Klux Klan (despite you alreayd having said that you would never call a group racist)" - do you just not get it? The entire founding principles of the KKK is racist ergo it is a racist group. It defines itself and membership by its racist creed. Ethnic groups are not racist by nature, ideological groups founded on racism, by definition, are racist. Has that sunk into your tiny brain yet?
BDE
You are deluding yourself if you think I am about to start defending a religion just to get at another one. I certainly will not. The Torah, like all other religious texts, is an idiot’s excuse to live a life without thinking, promoting separatism and a despicable moral code of absolutes based upon absolutely nothing. Whether it is racist or not is entirely beside the point. It makes no difference to the fact that Islam is extremely racist against the Jews and that this racism is highly evident in the Qur’an, the ahadith, Islamic history, common religious teaching, common political teaching, Islamic law and popular culture. Those are facts. It makes no difference who else or what other group, text or individual can also accurately be classified as racist. Islam is still racist against the Jews. As it has been since its inception as both taught and practiced by Muhammad. Read the Qur’an.
Since 97% of Palestinians are Muslims, the vast majority of whom elected a violent group to govern them that states within its founding Covenant a commitment to genocide based solely on their religion and a commitment to work towards their objectives by violence alone, specifically disavowing peaceful negotiation, then I think you are going to have a hard time claiming that they are not racist and that they are the end result of “Israel’s refusal to negotiate in good faith”. Yes, the KKK was founded upon racist principles. So was Hamas and you can check that for yourself by reading their founding Covenant as I keep suggesting.
So let’s try a little thought experiment. Let’s imagine the KKK is still going strong in the USA: Its founding principles are racist and it continues to hold such principles as stated policy and its representatives continue to make their racism central to their statements and discourse. The KKK puts forward political candidates for government and come election time they win a landslide victory. Does that signify that the American people are racist?
You bet your life it does.
Now substitute the KKK for Hamas, the USA for Palestine, and American people for Palestinians. Everything else in the above thought experiment remains exactly the same. Same experiment, and yet a different answer when it’s you doing the answering and that is evidence of bias, not objectivity.
Do you get that?
Quite frankly if you are not prepared to raise the level of your argument above “tiny brain”, “pea mind”, and all the other playground jibes you consider to be debate and start raising actual points then I’m losing interest in communicating with you. The only interesting discussion we have ever had, that actually included references (virtually all of them from me I might add), was the first time I stumbled across you in some anti-Semitic rant, frothing at the mouth to justify targeting suicide bombings against children as legitimate resistance. It is blatantly obvious that you have an opinion based on a virtually non-existent exploration of the available documents and facts and I’m rather bored of repeatedly suggesting that you read such easily available information in answer to your ever shifting attempts to breach the walls of an opposing view during which your only consistency lies in your support for a group for child murderers who would happily kill you for being an atheist as you claim to be and your racism against the Jews, who would quite happily accept that you are an atheist (if indeed you are, which I very much doubt) and allow you to live in peace.
CD
I would raise the tone of my debate if you ever made any sense and were anything other than a racist, lowlife bigot. Persist with your racist sophism and I will persist in treating you as a racist scumbag.
What you are really admitting is that you cannot defeat my logic and you are starting to become uncomfortably aware that you are a bigot with a very limited understanding of the world.
"So let’s try a little thought experiment. Let’s imagine the KKK is still going strong in the USA: Its founding principles are racist and it continues to hold such principles as stated policy and its representatives continue to make their racism central to their statements and discourse. The KKK puts forward political candidates for government and come election time they win a landslide victory. Does that signify that the American people are racist?
You bet your life it does.
Now substitute the KKK for Hamas, the USA for Palestine, and American people for Palestinians. Everything else in the above thought experiment remains exactly the same. Same experiment, and yet a different answer when it’s you doing the answering and that is evidence of bias, not objectivity.
" - is a case in point. You seem unable to understand that the victory of Hamas was an inevitable product of 39 years of unrelenting violence and oppression of the Palestinians by Israel. After two generations of Israel murdering Palestinians and destroying their property at will, the Palestinian people used democracy to elect a group which was not willing to compromise with the oppressor. It is that simple. Furthermore, regardless of whether Hamas is racist, its victory does not mean the Palestinians are racist; they voted for Hamas because it was the only reasonable alternative to Fatah, not because of Hamas' racism. By your logic all Jews are racist as the majority support Israel which by identifying itself as Jewish state is inherently racist against its non-Jewish citizens.
As a Zionist stooge, you will bend logic as far as you can to tar the Palestinians with nasty attributes; one should expect no less from a racist lowlife such as yourself. Unfortunately for you, anyone with a reasonable familiarity with logic and a good understanding of history can see through your babble with ease.
I really could not give a shit whether you are "losing interest in communicating with you" - you have not been unable to make one logical point and you continue to exhibit a pro-Zionist racist bias that I as a true atheist humanist find very distasteful.
Care to cite my "anti-Semitic rant" or are you just another ad hominem bullshit artist?
BDE
“What you are really admitting is that you cannot defeat my logic and you are starting to become uncomfortably aware that you are a bigot with a very limited understanding of the world.”
Perhaps this is true. I cannot defeat your logic. It is so well camouflaged that I have yet to even spot it, let alone strategise against it.
“You seem unable to understand that the victory of Hamas was an inevitable product of 39 years of unrelenting violence and oppression of the Palestinians by Israel. After two generations of Israel murdering Palestinians and destroying their property at will, the Palestinian people used democracy to elect a group which was not willing to compromise with the oppressor.”
See, bias again - “39 years of Israel murdering Palestinians”. How about Palestinians murdering Israelis? How about the reasons why there is OT? And why is the victory of Hamas the inevitable product of all of this, regardless of your bias? Could it perhaps be because the Palestinians have effectively ruled out a peaceful resolution, sincere negotiation or for that matter peace that does not include the destruction of Israel? Negotiation requires compromise. Being uncompromising is precisely the trait that assures violence. Israel is the “oppressor” simply because it does not welcome being destroyed.
The real oppressor of Palestine is their own inability to stop violence long enough to try peaceful means and the reason for that is the predominance of jihad ideology within their political aspirations. They are getting exactly what they demand – a life dominated by the costs of waging war against a vastly superior force that would be quite happy with a two state solution if the Palestinians would stop firing rockets and exploding themselves on busses full of kids.
CD,
I think we have exhausted this issue.
You are an intransigent bigot masquerading as an atheist humanist and I have better things to do then try and make you actually think critically or with reason.
Your understanding of the I/P conflict is limited in the extreme. You have been suckled at the teat of Zionist propaganda and are unable to break free from it.
There is no value to be gleaned from continuing.
I will continue to pop by and berate you for for the worthless POS you are from time to time but on this particular post I am done.
Unless of course you actually start to debate using reason and logic rather than Zionist propaganda and ideology but I doubt that will ever happen.
Do the world a favor and slink back under the rock with the other Zionist bigots.
BDE
Ok BDE, feel free to pop back at any time. And since you will be saving time by not ranting at me perhaps you will have time to catch up on some of that reading I've suggested. You'll find these crafty educated people have cleverly concealed all sorts of valuable information in books . The trick is to open them - I know, they should come with instructions, but now you know the secret. Enjoy :)
Merry Xmas/Kwanza/Channukah you small minded, vile bigot.
Here is hoping you die soon and make the world a better place ;)
BDE
LOL :)
Thanks BDE, I'm touched.
Choosedoubt - I command thee - return to blogging!
or how about please return. I love your blog.
Hi Mojoey,
Thanks indeed. I'm quite a fan of your blog also - lot's of interesting articles and good links.
I am planning to post again and I have started playing with some ideas. I will post again shortly and I will let you know.
Cheers :)
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